Podcast with Gever Tulley

Russell Cailey
2 min readNov 12, 2022

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Founder of Brightworks and the Tinkering School talks with the THINK Learning Studio.

For Think Learning Studio to meet Gever Tulley was indeed an opportunity to meet a leading educationalist in a joyful discussion about designing a school to follow a learner’s native curiosity with master tinkerer @gevertulley — co-founder of @sf_brightworks Brightworks School (San Francisco, CA, US), co-founder of @tinkeringschool, author of “50 Dangerous Things (You Should Let Your Children Do)”, toymaker, and TED big-stage speaker — for our latest Season 1 episode of the “Wander & Wonder: Exploring the Future of Learning” podcast.

A couple of breadcrumb trail ideas Gever shared:

- his school purposefully “looks for evidence of magic” and was launched to defend the idea that “everything is interesting.”

- letting elementary, middle, and high school kids co-build a 2–3 story structure called “Kid City” in an empty warehouse helped the school’s vision and pedagogy become real to everyone in year one

- why would you invite a kid to “be a robot on Mars” as a strategic response to Covid, and how do you scale that invitation to kids worldwide?

- exploring questions and ideas as a ‘keyhole’ offering a speck of light from a distance

- inviting all of his PreK-12th students to spend a half-year studying “monsters” followed by a half-year studying “machines.”

- build in “improvisational collaboration” across a school -> “create serendipitous overlaps where things emerge.”

- why an accessible power tool wall (drills, drivers, saws, etc.) implicitly says to a young person: “We trust you” and “Use what you need to explore your idea.”

- the importance of prototyping spaces, whether by building cardboard shoji screens and removing doors from classrooms, including providing children spaces they own outright

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- crafting a manifesto that shifts education from ‘testing kids’ to ‘testing schools’ by evaluating the presence of joy and delight; how central collaboration is across the school; the amount of autonomy that students have to explore their ideas; and how much a child’s creative capacity is invested in.

Release Date: Gever’s episode is now LIVE.

All 13 episodes will be released over November on the TLS Youtube Channel and Webpage.

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Russell Cailey

Managing Director of THINK Learning Studio | Curiosity Anywhere, Learning Everywhere.